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Post subject: Posted: December 17th, 2006, 10:59 pm |
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Haldir o Lorien wrote: I can name a few of movies that are seen in Eragon.. LotR, StarWars, The Mummy, Harry Potter (Hippogriff ;]).. any others to add to the list?
Harry Potter, hippogriff. I don't see it. Also, the Mummy?
LOTR and Star Wars yes but... o.O
And I thought their graphics were spectacular, one of the few pluses of the movie.
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Post subject: Posted: December 17th, 2006, 11:11 pm |
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Arwen the webmaster wrote: Ms.Gamgee wrote: Where was the training? Aragorn can barely fight  Heehee, sorry, that just made me laugh 
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Post subject: Posted: December 18th, 2006, 8:49 am |
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Well, I got to go see it yesterday afternoon with two of my best friends, hardcore Eragon fans all.
Overall, it was worse than I expected, though there were some real highlights. To summarize (possibly reiterating what some have already said, heh)-
-Ed Speelers was great. I thought he did a great job, like some of you have said, with what he was given. I was proud of him, felt like his mum or something.
-Brom wasn't at all bad. The actor was fabulous, and I liked how they introduced him.
-Carvahall in general I really liked. When the movie opened I thought, "Hey, maybe this won't be so bad after all!" Though I do not understand why they released promotional stills of Katrina and didn't show her at all, not even as an extra! What do you make of that?
-Roran wasn't bad either. I liked the sparring.
-Baby Saphira was sweet, but what was that horrible sped-up growing scene? What gives?!
-Saphira was all right. I didn't picture her at all like that, and the fact that she didn't have wing membrane really ticked me off, but the effects were really good I thought. I didn't have any moments of "Ooh, wow, how very Ralph Bakshi." Her voice was a little too old.
-I think wotsisface, Eragon, did a really good job of looking like he was talking to Saphira when they were just using their minds. I would never be able to do that well.
-Arya was unbelievable! I knew it was off to a bad start during the prologuey scenes...I am pretty certain that if no one had told me she was Arya, I wouldn't have figured it out. I couldn't believe the way they let her skirt flip up when Durza captured her, and the whole flirty dream thing drove me nuts. My friends and I spent any scene involving Arya smooshing our hands into our eyes. "It burns! It burns!"
-Angela. As my friend said, "No comment."
-Galbatorix; he had the most annoying accent imaginable. And isn't the actor supposed to be an oscar winner?
-Durza. I agree that he emulated Saruman when he was commanding his troops. And overall he was pretty disgusting. I didn't like him at all. What was with the fingernails? Both him and Galbatorix.
-It should've been rated PG-13.
-Nasuada had a bob! A bob!
-Ajihad was all right, but why in the world did they show him being killed at the beginning of the movie, during Brom's narration?
-Murtagh was a bit disappointing. I think the kid was a great actor and did pretty well, as with Eragon, with what he was given. But why couldn't they give him a real part of the plot? He trails them and then falls out of a tree. Oooh exciting. And so many bad throwaway lines. *sigh* He did look pretty good, though a little too goth.
By the end, the movie itself, standing alone from the book, was getting a little lame. I can't decide if I would enjoy it if I had never read the book. The music, at least, was incredible! I will buy that soundtrack asap.
My friend gave a rather good summary as we came out of the theater- "They established Alagasea quite nicely at the beginning, and you found yourself comfortably settled in the world. But unfortunately a few times they very forcefully booted you out."
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Post subject: Posted: December 18th, 2006, 9:26 am |
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Kitoky wrote: Haldir o Lorien wrote: I can name a few of movies that are seen in Eragon.. LotR, StarWars, The Mummy, Harry Potter (Hippogriff ;]).. any others to add to the list? Harry Potter, hippogriff. I don't see it. Also, the Mummy? LOTR and Star Wars yes but... o.O
Yeah.. the Ra'zac *twitches*
And the hippogriff thing.. when Saphira and Eragon went through the sky, it was exactly how that hippogriff and Harry did it.. and to cap that, Saphira had wings and looked like a hippogriff
Oh.. and does anyone else agree with me.. that at the beginning Durza looked almost exactly like Grima Wormtongue.. then as the movie went on, he turned into a Mouth of Sauron look-alike?
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Post subject: Posted: December 18th, 2006, 1:10 pm |
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*dies* Oh man I can think about a million things *dep breath*
Large things
- What happened to the giant crystal star thing on the ceiling, and how Arya and Saphira were supposed to break it to get to Eragon?!
- Saphira isnt supposed to know how to breathe fire until she breaks the star thing.
- Wasn't Brom supposed to die from thr Ra'zac things? Getting stabbed?
- The baby he was suppoed to bless, and Saphira who gives her a dragon mark? She plays a huge part in the second book.
- What happened to the desert? They wasted too much time watching Eragon and Brom splash through rivers like Babe Watch.
Small things
- What happend to the cave where Eragon was supposed to sleep?
- And his scar he gets from Durza
-THE SCAR ON HIS PALMM wasn't it supposed to be silver?! Not a dragon shape!?!
Thats all for now!
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Post subject: Posted: December 18th, 2006, 5:22 pm |
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Haldir o Lorien wrote: Kitoky wrote: Haldir o Lorien wrote: I can name a few of movies that are seen in Eragon.. LotR, StarWars, The Mummy, Harry Potter (Hippogriff ;]).. any others to add to the list? Harry Potter, hippogriff. I don't see it. Also, the Mummy? LOTR and Star Wars yes but... o.O Yeah.. the Ra'zac *twitches* And the hippogriff thing.. when Saphira and Eragon went through the sky, it was exactly how that hippogriff and Harry did it.. and to cap that, Saphira had wings and looked like a hippogriff Oh.. and does anyone else agree with me.. that at the beginning Durza looked almost exactly like Grima Wormtongue.. then as the movie went on, he turned into a Mouth of Sauron look-alike?
*twitches with you*
I do agree, whole heartedly. 
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Post subject: Posted: December 18th, 2006, 11:14 pm |
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...So I went and saw it today....
Basically, Nienor summed it up to what I thought about it. Ed Speelers was surprisingly good, much better than I expected. He was cute, too.
Galbatorix. Oh wow. Alot of snickering was heard from me and my sister whenever he came on screen. He was just... terrible. Quote: And isn't the actor supposed to be an oscar winner?
^Yeah... that was just what I was thinking.
Murtagh. Where was he?! I was sorely disappointed that his part was so small. When he was on screen I enjoyed his acting, he was good. His hair didn't match his skin, though. It made him look slightly ill
Arya. Actually, she didn't bug me as much as I thought she would. I still didn't like her, though.
Brom. He was good... I enjoyed his character. I give him a 10/10
Durza. Ok, why did his lips/face split half was through the movie? He had gross nails, too. He was creepy, but not exactly "scary", if you know what I mean.
Saphira. I think she was the best out of all, she was very realistic. Her voice was OK, it was different from what I expected. All in all, she was great
Gosh, this seems like I just bashed the whole movie. It wasn't that bad, just very different from what I expected. The majority of the movie was good (acting, movie sets, etc) but there were just a few things that were horribly disappointing. Oh well 
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Post subject: Posted: December 19th, 2006, 4:02 am |
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*wants to murder Fox* They...killed...my...book...
Well, my friend Meghan who came with me - and has read the book 4 times - summed it up quite well: "Good movie, horrible book adaption." I was quite impressed with Ed Speelers in particular as far as acting goes (and this has nothing to do with his looks, though I must admit he's quite attractive). Saphira was done better than I thought she would be and the telepathic connection was portrayed well. The actress doing Arya, aside from her RED HAIR *snarls*, was well-cast. The scenery was absolutely gorgeous, I totally wanted to go live there.
And now for the negative portions of my opinions:
-NO KATRINA. How the heck are they going to do Eldest?!? The whole reason Roran's chasing after the Raa-zak is because of her!
-No Twins. Granted they creeped me out, but we need them in there. They're essential to the plot of Eldest.
-No mention of the two dragon eggs. Where is Thorn going to come from??? And what about the green dragon coming in the third book???
-Plot was completely compressed and a mondo portion of character development was left out. Eragon was all "Ooh, I have to learn to ride Saphira? Okay, now I'm a stellar Rider! Ooh, I have to learn magic? Okay, now I can do it better than the best of them!" Yeah right.
-Brom was a huge jerk. I'm sorry, I have respect for Jeremy Irons, but he just didn't pull off Brom the way I wanted him to. Grr. I felt almost nothing when Brom died, just kind of sorry for Eragon, because we knew virtually nothing about this movie Brom, just that he was beating Eragon up, yelling at him, and that he was once a Dragon Rider. That's it. My friend Meghan (same as mentioned above) said she literally cried buckets all four times she read the book when Brom died, but in the movie she was just like "Oh, you're dead. Too bad. Whatever." I've always thought of Brom as sort of like Gandalf or a big grizzly bear, nice and gentle sometimes and gruff when he needed to be - but I didn't get that vibe from movie Brom. *tear*
-Arya's hair. But that didn't bug me as much as I thought it would, actually, because I got too involved with tearing the rest of the movie apart. (haha)
-Arya's ears. Prosthetics are not that hard, people.
-The freaking feathers on Saphria's wings. What was up with that???
-Durza seemed wooden to me. I don't know if I'm crazy or not but he did.
-Galbatorix, now that I think about it, wasn't very well-done. He wasn't intimidating or anything, not really.
-Brom didn't get stabbed by Durza!!! He got killed by the Raa-zak (if my memory serves me correctly)! Geez, people, at least give him the correct death...
-Eragon's mark when he touches Saphira. What happened to the gedwey ignasia??? That rope burn looking thing is just ugly, no getting around it.
-The kid Eragon tries to bless but screws up. We need her! Where has she gone?
-Brom's dragon Saphira/Eragon's naming Saphira. One of the most irritating things to me was that they left out the whole naming thing, that she already knew her name. *fumes* I adore those scenes and they have deprived me of them...
-Angela. Why hire an 18 year old model to play her??? I know she's supposed to be younger than she looks but not THAT young!
-Solembum is gone. Not really a central character, I know, but he was kinda cool. I want him back.
-What was up with combining Angela's city with the city that the Raa-zak destroyed? They could've just cut out that city entirely and had them go straight to Angela's, and then that would've cut out one of the things I'm mad at them about anyway.
-Galbatorix's creatures: They looked nothing like they were described in the books. Nothing. Arrr...
-Saphira's egg, in my opinion, looked like an overgrown medication pill and/or a large squashed ovoid water balloon. Not a dragon egg.
-I swear that Arya was *interested* in Eragon. Right, because she's all over him like that in the books too. Not. I seriously thought they were gonna kiss on the mountaintop in the end and it wouldn't have surprised me in the least if they had.
-Arya wasn't alive and talking when Eragon scryed her; she was unconcious and knocked out. Then she doesn't even wake up till after they're with the Varden. Gosh. Get it right idiots! (In that particular scene she reminded me of Luthien Tinuviel so much, I can't even tell you.)
-Almost killing off Saphira. What was up with that??? And the ending was so completely cheesy. We all knew she was still alive, for heaven's sake.
Holy moose, that was longer than I thought it would be. I guess I have a lot of repressed agression about this movie. Sorry everyone!
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Post subject: Posted: December 19th, 2006, 10:22 am |
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I really hated how Arya was conscious. That was.. ridiculous.
And HAHA yes, my friend (Loveless) was watching Eragon with me and she was the one out of us that pointed out that Saphira's egg looked like a medicine pill.. it was pretty hilarious though.
The made-up words for "branch" and stuff was idiotic.
And I still don't see how Saphira could possibly grow up in three seconds while flying around in the clouds.. who grows like that? With that kind of speed? I was like.. errr what? 
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Post subject: Posted: December 19th, 2006, 1:22 pm |
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OOo! I absolutely agree about the whole Arya concious thing and Saphira growing up in a matter of seconds flying through the clouds, that was silly.  Oh and so was the whole Angela thing. I was really disappointed by that, actually that was the only thing that made me really irked. As, I've stated multiple  times before Angela was my favorite character in the book. And to see her come out in this ridiculous costume made me sad. But speaking of costumes When Eragon first meets the Varden in the city, I love their costumes, they were like Tribal Bellydancers!! So, awesome! I was sad that they only spent limited time with them in the movie.
OOO! I really disliked the whole "Love Story" between Eragon and Arya.......
Oooh, and Durza, my friend and I had a joke going throughout that he looked like he was on meth as he progressed through the movie...the teeth...the skin.....  "Meth, not even once!" maybe Montana should use Durza on their anti-meth campaigns....
However, the actor that played Murtagh was...beautiful. I went with my friend to see the movie, she despised the book with a fiery passion. The bad script writing didn't help her liking either book or movie but when Murtagh came on screen she errr Melted? Hehehe....
Oh and Saphira's egg did look like a gigantic tylenol pill....only bluer and shinier
Overall, I thought the movie was a bit choppy, it jumped around a lot, It also helped that I read the book so I could fit in the missing detail, even though the movie strayed from the book entirely at some points  Ooohhh and the script, I mentioned further up that I thought it was bad....well, the dialogue kept getting cheesier and cheesier as the movie progressed.
However, it is interesting to see that "Eragon" is ranked as number two on Box Office hits this week...hmmm....Oh well....the special effects of flying was nice, but I wish that more had been in there, as many of you guys have pointed out, I'm not going to bother reiterating because I think we're all on the same page....
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Post subject: Posted: December 19th, 2006, 3:26 pm |
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Number #2? Wow, i'm surprised. I am glad its doing well, though.
Haha, my 19 year old sister just became an Murtagh (or more like Garrett Hedlund) fan. When she thinks a guy is hot/cute, she never tells me. But after coming home from the movie yesterday, she was like "Can you show me some pictures of him in real life? He's cute!" 
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Post subject: Posted: December 19th, 2006, 3:27 pm |
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I haven't seen it. I've seen trailers, and this is the information I've gathered from watching about 30 seconds:
- Arya has light hair and obnoxiously girly clothes. The "Be [what is it? Brave or strong?] brave/strong, Eragon" looks like she's hitting on him.
- Saphira looks like a drowned blue Pegasus
- The gedway ignasia looks like Eragon was leaning on a stove and burned his hand
- The kid who plays Eragon can't act. AND IS BLONDE. What is up with that???
Anyone who's seen the movie want to confirm that?
If I'm gonna see it it's so I can make fun of it here and agree with any criticism on this thread.
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Post subject: Posted: December 19th, 2006, 4:37 pm |
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1. Yes, you're pretty much right about Arya.
2. Saphira's not that bad.  She's actually OK.
3.  I have to agree with you! The silver thing was so much cooler...
4. He can act. Far better than you'd expect, especially considering this is his first movie. Eragon's not that bad.
I was telling my good friend Elwing about it yesterday (she's going to see it on Thursday) and she was flipping out. I think it's kind of funny.  My overall review remains that it's a pretty good movie and a horrendous book adaption.
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Post subject: Posted: December 19th, 2006, 5:09 pm |
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Is he really an OK actor? I was reading the review in my newspaper. He went on and on about how there was no foreshadowing and such like--good story plotlines--just a bunch of "action" climaxes. But, then again, he only gave TRotK 3 of 4 stars...
Hey, AF, Doesn't Legolas still not like swimming in Pepsi?
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Post subject: Posted: December 19th, 2006, 5:55 pm |
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Well, most of us here seem to think he was OK.  Of course, sometimes you have to form an opinion yourself.
And the critics all hate Eragon... well, not all, but most critics aren't thrilled with it.
No, he still doesn't like it, but I decided it was time for a change.  I have another quote, non-LotR related, that I'm sticking in there soon.
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Post subject: Posted: December 19th, 2006, 6:54 pm |
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Sidawethiel wrote: Oh and so was the whole Angela thing. I was really disappointed by that, actually that was the only thing that made me really irked. As, I've stated multiple  times before Angela was my favorite character in the book. And to see her come out in this ridiculous costume made me sad.
Yeah... Book Angela was awesome, my favorite character as well. What about the fact that she talked about herself in the third person? It was kinda creepy.
I really wanted to hear the conversation about frogs/toads... 
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