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-dies- WHY ARE YOU SO GOOD AT NAILING IT! That's like BAGN on. Even if the MOVIE in itself is well made, (I thought the extension of cultures was alright; I did say that I can see why they added) theres just something wrong about it. I think that the directing was terrible. You look at LOTR and what Pete did, and it just dosent compare. Theres something which just irks me deep down inside about it...

And if they even HINT at anything with Lucy and Caspian I think that I'll stone the director.

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You should hear me trying to speak about this in R/L. I'm hopeless. :P I'm much better at typing my thoughts out than saying them. :teehee:

I'm not one for being able to tell when a film is badly directed, but I know that director's for a lot more than just tell actors how they want them to act in a scene (currently re-watching all the FOTR EE documentaries... OMG, how did that man survive making those films?!!) and I think when it came to other elements of a director's job - namely story and how characters were perceived - he really wasn't the best person to go for. I still don't know how he totally screwed up the character of Trumpkin and confused him with Nikabrik.

At least all the Arwen/Aragorn lovey-dovey whiners can at least acknowlege their romance was canon, and PJ just put their story back in the main mix where it belonged. Suspian was frabricated mainly for the fangirls. It's such an implausible romance - and the way Susan was potrayed as being something of a man-predtaor the minute she saw Caspian - it just doesn't work.

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Caspian - He wasn't as bad as I thought he was going to be. Although I'm still not convinced why he wanted to help the Narnians. A simple scene of him as a child listening to stories of Narnia, and trying to talk to trees and speaking to his horse, would have given a stronger impression of his motivation to help Narnia. As it was, he didn't even know what half of the creatures were to begin with and like with Peter and Susan in the first film (they spend half the film bickering about being in Narnia and the next minute they're happy to die for it) I'm not truly convinced as to why he was going to help them. In the books we learn so much more about his love for Narnia, rather than his hatred and blood lust for his uncle. The scene in the woods where he was being icky and speech stirring (supposedly) and they were all offering swords and bows... eh... if they had to add something that wasn't in the books along those lines, you'd think they'd used something different than the Council of Elrond scene.

Edmund - Not in it enough. Simple as that. He is definitely the best actor out of the two brothers. And it was nice to see his character had grown... whereas some of them had gone backwards....

Lucy - Same with Edmund. Lucy to me IS a part of Narnia. Part of the magic of the first film was Lucy and the way she was entranced with Narnia (although it was more evident in the book). They lost a lot of scenes in the book with her, and with it, they lost some of the spirit of Narnia.

Aslan - As my brother said (who hasn't read the books in years) Aslan is pretty useless in the films. He doesn't do much, he lets people die and it's never explained properly who or what he is. And I agree. There's so much more to Aslan that isn't even eluded to. The CGI for him was better this time though.

Lucy & Aslan - I was majorly disappointed that we didn't see more of Lucy and Aslan's (and where was Susan?) journey and the people they met and gathered for the army. It would have just given the viewer another glimpse of Narnia.

Exactly. EXACTLY. Those were some of my thoughts when I first saw it as well. I am a Narnia purist, mainly becuase I see no reason to change anything. The stories are short enough to not have to. But I'm not going to go through everything again, I did that once already with my review.

Oh, and Reep does have a feather in the books.

Lucy/Caspian? :jedi: :hide: NO. NO NO NO NO.

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Ok, first and foremost... I'm sorry about whatever I might miss in this reply. There have been SO many LONG posts since I was here last... :swoon: so I'm just gonna briefly catch up.

What’s this about me giving JF a nice long rant? :yeahright: I don’t agree with a lot of what she said but at least JF went in to the movie with an open mind and didn’t hate it as badly as I thought she/you would. ;) and although I’m not in the greatest of moods today, hey, I’m not going to rant. Perhaps it’s just that UKer and Americans look at movies differently. I’m not sure, but whatever. You did explain your reasons, JF… very well too. And I’m glad you had an open mind towards some things at any rate. You can like what you like about it and I’ll like what I like. Personally, The Call (which was the song at the end of the movie ;)) is one of my favorite songs ever. I saw nothing at all wrong with it. But maybe our ideas of Narnia are different. ;) who knows! :P

Anyway, I really hope this Lucy/Caspian ship doesn’t pull through… after the whole Suspian thing it might be kind of cheesey. Like “does Caspian fall in love with every Olden Days queen that comes his way or what?” lol if they do that things will just start getting retarded... :eyeroll:



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I find being a critic over a Book to Movie Adaption to be pointless. For there will always be changes.

If you hated PC. Just think about the Eragon Purists. PC was EXACTLY like the book compared to the Eragon movie.

And LOTR has changes. Some people hate the LOTR movies for the same reason some of you hate the PC movie. Which I will never understand.

But...Can't force anyone to like the movie. I just find it pointless to be overly critical on a Book to Movie Adaption. Because you will always be disappointed in some form or way.

Just My Opinion though. I'm glad you atleast somewhat enjoyed the movie JF. :-D


^couldn't agree more with you, Bala! Need I say more than that? You are exactly right on everything! :yes: there will always be changes… even the LotR movies had them so I really don’t know what’s so different from PC. Ah well…

Damson, I would say go watch PC right now! I thought it was really good and really easy to follow. Even if you’ve only read two of the books and all that I think PC is a worthwhile movie. And if you can accept that there is a book and a movie and they each have their own differences and specialties than I think you should enjoy it. :yes: you should watch LWW too before you see PC… (and actually *cough cough* I like PC better ;))

Anie, so that’s what our Eustace is gonna look like, huh? I guess he’s not so bad. I think he fits. :yes: (a lot better than *gulp* Zac Efron! :hide: ) that’s awesome!

Lar, that was another pretty good review. :yes: although I don’t agree with all of it, but hey, so what, right? ;) I can see what you mean with all of it (just like with JF) and that one scene with Jadis and all weirded me out the first time I saw it. :yes: it really did, but I don’t mind it quite so much now, I guess. *shrugs* but as Eäryendë just pointed out Edmund was so awesome in that scene so how can you hate it too much? :P

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Lucy and Caspian?!?!
No way...that is totally sick and twisted...he's like a bajillion years older than her, and in the book he gets married to the Ragu (sorry - can't remember his name) guy's daughter. He doesn't fall for every girl that comes from our world! * is spitting mad*

*blows up*

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^ Ramandu's Daughter.

Yeah, I don't object to Lucy/Caspian in fanfiction- when they're both grown up (esp. Lucy). But lately I've been sticking to the canon ships more. I just put Caspian and Ramandu's daughter together... and you can make OCs for the four Pevensies. Actually, a ship I kind of like is Lucy/Corin. Obviously, that would happen in the latter years of the Pevensie's reign, during/after HHB.

For a Lucy/Caspian ship- in PC, he's about 14, about the same age as Peter. Lucy would be 9. That's too young for both of them, but especially Lucy. If that pairing were going to happen, it'd almost have to be in LB when they get to Aslan's country. She's about... 17 then.

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Ugh. Still. It'd be like polluting Lucy or something! :yuck:

Ramandu....yes...thank you.. :blush:

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^oh, don't feel bad, Padawan. "the Ragu guy's daughter" made me smile. :teehee:

Yeww...

When I was little, I watched Disney movies all the time, but I sure as heck didn't make up random pairings in Narnia. Even when I was 7 I knew there were some boundaries you just don't cross. :duh:

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^Exactly! Like...like...you don't cross Poo Bear with Snow White!

*cracks a smile*
Well, I'm glad I gave you some amusement in my hour of deepest disgust... :)

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Exactly! Like...like...you don't cross Poo Bear with Snow White!


Excellent example. They have done so much to pervert everything that has any sort of innocence in it. It actually makes me rather sick to see where everyone's mentality is these days...[/quote]

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:lol: this is an amusing little discussion to read through... :P but I completely agree with all of you. I didn't mind the changes they made for the PC movie, I can even tolerate Suspian but this would be going WAY too far! :yuck: meh, I'm sure it's just some sick person who made up a completely untrue rumor. :yes:

hehe, don't worry about it, Padawan... you got close enough for us to know who you were talking about. ;) Isn't Ragu the company that makes those yummy spaghetti and pizza sauces though? :teehee:

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:blush:

Yeah, it is...
Hey, I at least got it close. Ramandu and his nameless daughter served up food on their table, and Ragu makes pasta sauce...they're related by food! :-D

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Padawan wrote:
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Yeah, it is...
Hey, I at least got it close. Ramandu and his nameless daughter served up food on their table, and Ragu makes pasta sauce...they're related by food! :-D


LOL the Ragu thing reminded me of a LotR fanfic I read once. A girl from earth gets in middle earth... and when she hears the name Brego, she thinks it's Prego, like the sauce, so she keeps going on about a tomato sauce horse.

Ok, that was random. Anyway, back to regularly scheduled PC-talk.

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*cracks up*
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Oh Eary, that was too good.... :lol:

*wipes away laughing tears*

Ha!
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@ Nurr - I'll have to try and wade through and find your review then, as you sound like you had the same thoughts as me.. which is good.

Ah, I wasn't sure about the feather. I think visually that didn't work as well as it probably did in the books.

@ PD - :hug: I'm glad we can agree to disagree. The song actually, isn't a bad song, and the lyrics do suit the film... but I don't think it suited where it was placed in the film. :no: It didn't seem to go with war-torn London to me, I think it would have been good as an end credit song personally.


Nice to see lots on anti-Luspian or whatever the little fan people call them. XD Man, that is just not right. If anyone from the films treads any fan forums, they should know not to even THINK about adding that to Dawn Treader. Or I'll come after them with a meat cleaver.

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Ah, I wasn't sure about the feather. I think visually that didn't work as well as it probably did in the books.

@ PD - :hug: I'm glad we can agree to disagree. The song actually, isn't a bad song, and the lyrics do suit the film... but I don't think it suited where it was placed in the film. :no: It didn't seem to go with war-torn London to me, I think it would have been good as an end credit song personally.


Aww the feather was cute! I liked it.

Regarding the song- I don't think it was totally out of place. It could've been there, as they were leaving, or just after the credits start to roll. I really love that song.

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